don't really want to go through the whole 9/11 nonsense here, but inspired by my general annoyance at the topic, I thought I'd present a little run down of the top ten photos conspiracy theorists don't want to deal with (click the photos to see larger versions). I don't claim that this page somehow proves the official story l to be right, nor that it proves conspiracy theories wrong, but it gives some neat examples of why it's hard to take some of these people seriously. 1. Flight 77 wreckage (from the landing gear) at the Pentagon. Conspiracy theorists used to argue that no plane ever hit the Pentagon, claiming that there was no visible debris at the site. They seem to have retreated from this claim in the last couple of years.
2. Debris from the Twin Towers falling onto WTC7. car ownership. Many conspiracy theorists still believe that fires and debris couldn't have reached WTC7 (the tall building lower-right) to inflict signifi federal loan consolidation department
cant damage, claiming that WTC7 must have been subjected to a controlled demolition.
3. WTC6 lies in ruins. Conspiracy theorists have also argued that WTC7 couldn't have been federal loan consolidation department struck by debris since WTC6 - which lies between the twin towers and WTC7 - "wasn't that damaged". Note that the center has entirely collapsed. In spite of evidence like this, and reports from fire-fighters, who used instruments to measure the gradual movement and distortion of WTC7's structure over several hours up until its collapse, Truthers still prefer to believe that a controlled demolition occurred.
4 & 5. Fires rage in WTC5 and WTC6. Many conspiracy theorists refuse to accept that fire could have spread to WTC7, even though fires clearly raged across much of the WTC complex.
6. Plume from the Flight 93 Crash. As witnesses looked on, Mrs McClatchey took this shot from her porch. Ever since, conspiracy theorists have harassed and threatened her, even anonymously posting her phone number and photos of her home on blogs. They claim that the evidence must be faked, as it is inconsistent with their theory that a missile brought down the aircraft. (which would have resulted in fragments of the plane coming down over a wide area), and have subjected Mrs McClatchey to a torrent of abuse.
7. A seatbelt from the wreckage of Flight 93. Hundreds of volunteers spent days and weeks combing the area, collecting wreckage amounting to virtually the entire plane, now in the possession of the airline (with the exception of the black boxes which are held by air safety officials. Some conspiracy theorists believe that all of the local residents in the area are liars, along with all the airline workers, local police and emergency services, coronors, and air safety experts involved in the operation to recover the aircraft, and the analysis of flight data and materials recovered.
8. Sagging floors in WTC2. As the heat in the towers increase, steel supports were weakened causing buckling, as evidenced by the sagging floor visible here. This weakening led to the structural failure of the building. Conspiracy theorists claim that the buildings should have survived these structural failures, and believe that thousands of explosive charges were rigged inside the building, with a control system to detonate them somehow surviving the impact and fires.
9. Workmen cutting beams in the wreckage. Conspiracy theorists are for some reason obsessed with the idea that thermite was used in 9/11, in spite of the fact that thermite is used for cutting and welding, and never in demolitions (indeed, it would be practically impossible to set it up). They cite neatly cut beams as evidence of thermite being used, but ignore the fact that beams were neatly cut up by workmen operating after the collapse.
10. Debris out-paces the collapse of the tower. Many conspiracy theorists claim that the World Trade Center towers fell equal to (or ludicrously faster than) free-fall speeds. Many photos clearly show falling debris out-pacing the collapse of the building, proving that the structures fell at well below free-fall speeds.
Ultimately this sort of blogging is an exercise in futility. There is no evidence, no matter how convincing, that will ever be accepted by the 9/11 "Truth" Movement's hardcore evangelists. The irony is that the people who claim to be searching for the truth are so willing to ignore evidence and react angrily to those with conflicting evidence and testimony.
A bigger irony is that if there is a conspiracy, truthers with their deluge of disinformation are doing more than anyone else to help cover it up.
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Nice try but I am still not convinced. A single seat belt and no bodies or fuselage? And where did you get the photograph from the pentagon?
the photo with the seat belt is hilarious! So if i want i can have a seat belt in my house and i can safely say to the world that a plane crashed in my room!!! right???
The one with the smoke is funny too! A plane crashed because there is smoke! ITS OBVIOUS!!
Not a single tower in the world has ever collapsed from a fire! The first ever was WTC 6.
Enough said.
To the two of you above; time for a reality check. You know, there's medical conditions around to describe you two. I'm even covered by some of those, I've been utterly paranoid, but come on! Take your pills and accept there's a world, and even a evil one, outside the USA as well. No planes crashing? Well tell that to the people who lost their loved ones. Tell that to the airline who lost their crews and planes. Tell that to the employers who lost their employees in the towers. Try to convince them. Nah, you don't have the courage. Still preferring a life in your own fantasy worlds, like small kids still believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. Btw, I do think those two have some evil pact... Better look out for their activities! Structural failure? Oh, what a shock that things fall apart when they're overloaded and way over their load bearing capacity. Wonder what happens if a plane falls down on the house I'm living in... You two are neither structural/plane/fire or civil engineers. Neither metallurgists or another on form of lay people. Real human bodies on US television or in the papers? Come on, you can't even take a pair of nipples...
These people are all bat shit crazy. That's the truth most self-evident from their efforts.
Conspiracy Theory Negation FAIL!!!
my friend you are living in the world of fools. There are thousands of loopholes in the planning of WTC conspiracy hatched by CIA and MOSAd. By showing few pictures and giving stupid reasons you cant change the minds of billions of people who know that who was behind this plan and why it was made.
Absolutely hilarious.
A clearly photoshopped set of photographs, and unverified evidence re the wheel (which has been proven to be not the type used on the fictional plane) and a seat belt.
Do some real research and find out the REAL truth for yourself.
But you won't because you're the real nut, who in your delusional state of denial doesn't "...really want to go through the whole 9/11 nonsense here..."
Try at your peril.
- Ken in Dublin.
hey ken in dublin,
you are intellectually dishonest. remember that.
To the truthers, you believe that the same govt that can't make renewing your drivers license easy, and can't keep its own staffers from leaking info to the press about everything could flawlessly mastermind something like 9/11? You guys called Bush stupid for 8 years, but simultaneously credit him with pulling off a masterful trick like this perfectly all after being in office just a few months. Ridiculous and hypocritical. Wouldn't you think they'd masterfully be able to get Bin Laden too and secure a Republican successor after them? After all that would be easy compared to 9/11. This is a joke! Not one single person has had a guilty conscience and come forward since? Do you have any idea how long it would take to rig those buildings with enough explosives to do that? Or the likelihood of the explosive charges remaining intact after the planes crashed? It isn't a conspiracy. Let it go and accept the truth.
morons... u people probably have lame lives with very limited social lives outside of your conspiracy chat rooms. get some friends and move on people. take a deap breath, and let it go. there now, doesnt that feel better?
Who and where are these so called angry 9/11 evangelists? It's possible that Civil and construction engineers, firefighters, demolition experts and other respectable people have sceptiscm.
Whats wrong with asking questions anyway.
And to you people who still think that your government runs America, and has the power to decide what wars to fight, I think you're naive. I feel like Americans are easily fooled into the belief that they're a free nation.
I don't think anyone believes George Bush was capable of more than picking his nose, and sometimes reading a book (The right way up)
Whoever made this is RETARDED
Do to the amount of people who could be deluded by this childish and most importantly irresponsible ploy to discredit irrefutable evidence and the lives lost and the liberties lost by these attacks. We have to say that if you were to talk to any structural engineer they will say that structural steel can ONLY be melted by the same or higher heat it was created by. All structural steel is made with thermite and blast furnaces. Not with jet fuel and a few pieces of office furniture. With these facts and the fact that the buildings were engineered to withstand multiple airplane strikes. There is nothing in this physical reality that states these facts can be refuted. With this in mind the conclusion must be that explosives were used and thermite to cut the steel.
like movie action in 911 tragedi.
who is terorism? Islam, Politic or USA?
Interesting....
@TJ: Yes, I'm sure guys were walking around with thermite torches in the weeks before the attack, and nobody who saw them damaging the building gave it a second thought. If this was a government conspiracy, don't you think they would've been able to predict that there would be truthers all over the place? And do a better job in the planning phase to not be so sloppy with this so-called evidence that truthers point to?
South Park has the best take on it all...
Cartman: They aren't going to find out who did it. But they'll make up a scapegoat, send him to detention, and make us all believe it. It'll be 9/11 all over again.
Kyle: Will you shut up about 9/11!
Cartman: Kyle, why are you so afraid of the truth?!
Kyle: Because anybody who thinks 9/11 was a conspiracy is a retard!
Cartman: Oh really? Well did you know that over one-fourth of people in America think that 9/11 was a conspiracy? Are you saying that one-fourth of Americans are retards?
Kyle: Yes. I'm saying one-fourth of Americans are retards.
Stan: Yeah, at least one-fourth.
Kyle: Let's take a test sample: There's four of us, you're a retard, that's one-fourth.
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